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Do We Want Extra OOC Sections?

Yes. Mature
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Yes. 1 on1
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Yes. Mature and 1 on 1
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Nope, I think we're fine
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19%
 
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Extra OOC Sections

Postby Aya » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:45 am

Ok, so this is just a check to see how many people actually want this. This subject has come up to me so many times in the last couple years, and I am a super organization freak, that I think we need to see just how many people want it. And let's face it, the OOC section needs some organization.

So, we've had people ask for a sub section for mature RPs and one for 1 on 1 RPs. Right now we just have a simple tag people put into the subject line for people to find them. Since the mature RPs along with 1 on 1s aren't as many as the normal RPs, some do tend to get lost and it might be easier to find them if they had their own sections.

Though.... if we did this, you would not be able to promote your RPs in both the specific section as well as the normal section. You can only post your OOC once. If people want a mature RP, they will find you in the proper section. Same for 1 on1.

I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on this, and please, everyone vote. This isn't going to happen if only a dozen or so people vote on this. I'm looking for a hundred+ votes.
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Postby sincerelyrichard » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:54 am

I think it's a great idea to have both. I personally tire very quickly of having to dig around through the OCC threads to find a 1 on 1 if I'm looking for one.
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Postby OutlawTorn » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:12 am

You had my vote at the title.

I think a section for Mature and regular might better segregate both mature and regular One on Ones, but I've voted both, anyway.

I don't know why this wasn't thought of and implemented before :P Mature is almost common sense. It lets the OOC development handle the mature content in detail, without potential exposure to minors.













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Postby Aya » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:17 am

Oh, no. You misunderstand. The mature OOC will not be restricted. Some people that are of age that simply don't have access because there was never a need will want to be able to see if there is anything of interest to join. Then, if there is, they will ask for access. Closing this off will prevent people from joining unless they were invited, and then they still have to ask for access and wait before they can even see the thread. The mature OOC section would not be restricted at all.
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Postby OutlawTorn » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:20 am

:P My vote only goes for One on Ones then. There's no point in a Mature.



EDIT: Mix 'em in for max exposure by browsers. Application process will keep some people from bothering.
















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Postby Aya » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:23 am

One section for both mature and 1 on 1. That was also an option, but that was a detail to be worked out later.
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Postby OutlawTorn » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:27 am

I mean leave Matures in the regular. Make a section for 1 on 1. only 2 Forums in total.


















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Postby Grey » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:27 am

I only voted for mature, but now that I think about it maybe 1 on 1 should be an option as well. My reasoning was that once someone decides who they want to rp with and get the IC up, they simply bring their discussion to IMs, but that more than likely isn't the case. What made me chose Mature though was the fact that any time I see an rp with loads of background and content, its more than likely in the mature section.
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Postby OutlawTorn » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:30 am

The more I think about it, the more I think we're fine. believe it or not. I'm never hindered, lost, or troubled with the OOC process, any par tof it.



EDIT: My reasoning is, the amount of 1on1 and mature Rp's put together, pale in comparison to the regular RP's. You're seperating a tiny minority into entire other sections.


I think sections for Genre's would serve the purpose, and OoC experience, much better.

When you look at an RP cause the title or creator catch your eye, the details are usually therein. But when I go to find a specific genre of RP, I have to do guess work with titles, or sift through details.














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Postby Weezy_Fourstrings » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:49 am

I'm heavily medicated at the moment, so I might not be thinking this through clearly. It seems like it just makes things more complicated though.

If you propose an RP idea, you aren't always sure if it will wind up as a 1x1 or a mature game. You often have a good idea, but sometimes that changes after an interest check, which means the mods have to move around more threads.

I've noticed lately that a lot of new people are just posting OOC stuff in the IC boards. Having more OOC boards will probably confuse these people even more.

I'd personally say leave it at one OOC, but maybe post some guidelines about tagging OOC threads with keywords. One-on-one threads are often labeled as such.

EDIT: OT makes a good point. Maybe there should be genre keywords, too. Of course some people won't use them, but if enough of us make an effort then they might make it a little easier.
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Postby cdawgg » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:34 am

I've brought it up that I wanted separate sections for the one-on-onesto you, Aya. But I didn't think about the mature. I like the idea of having both. (: That's my vote.
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Postby Brash_Toma » Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:37 am

it would be easier if there was sections dedicated for both one on one and mature. i think that is good because there might nbe a new member saying, "oh gee this looks like a good rp." Not knowing that it might end up in mature section. and also one on one rps are always good to have isolated.
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Postby Darkblade » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:29 pm

My view would be for seperate ooc section for mature, which would be under the same rules and permissions as the mature ic so that then people don't go through the process of getting into the rp to find that it's in a section they can't post in. True that has led to many rps being changed from their original mature intent to one of the normal threads but this is the only split into differing ooc sections that makes sense to me.
I do understand that having a 1 on 1 section would give better shelf life to oocs that aren't 1 on 1 but get pushed from the listings due to the 1 on 1 oocs and that it may be seen as useful to have them seperated from the mainstream of oocs. So perhaps it would prove beneficial to have them as a seperate ooc section, and my own indecision on it is probably cause I don't do 1 on 1 rping.
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Postby OutlawTorn » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:39 pm

This is the last time I'll voice my opinion here, I promise :P

I think it's too late to set up an easy, simple, and effective OoC system. When the Site was set up, Each Genre(the only effective way to Catagorize RP's), should have had an OoC sub Forum, or IC sub Forum. NOt 1 giant mix-genre Forum. If you make a 1 on 1 Forum, the Genre issue(which is the biggest OoC browsing issue for me) is still there. Plus you're gunna have a ghost Forum, getting maybe 2 new threads a week or less. And the 1 on 1 is actually going to get more activity than your Mature - which, even though it would have it's own Forum now, you still have to keep your Development PG.
Someone said people normally do development in IM or something, hich means private messageing of some kind. I'd like to say that's a problem I se eon alot of RP's, unless it's a 1 on 1, or you're Im'ing every other writer on your project.

Finding and distinguising a 1 on 1 from any other RP - to me, anyway - is pathetically easy, to the point where in 3 years, I've never mistaken or mixed up a 1 on 1 for any other kind of RP.

Breaking your catagories into Mature, 1 on 1, and the other 4 Genres that see 60-70% of the activity both OoC and IC, just seems completely useless and trivial to me, as someone who has very little problem telling 1 on 1's from group role plays.
With Mature's 9 times out of ten, the First posts says, "This will be in the Mature Section" within the first 3 lines.

This isn't rocket science to me.

Genre's are you major, breakable catagories, not 1 on1's and Matures. Every Rp falls directly into 1 Genre or another. That's the place where this should have been tackled long ago, before the Giant mixed-genre OoC became evgraved in the site.


My vote comes off of both, and onto, we're fine, thanks.


Darkblade wrote:My view would be for seperate ooc section for mature, which would be under the same rules and permissions as the mature ic so that then people don't go through the process of getting into the rp to find that it's in a section they can't post in.


Someone else is starting to make general sense. :D thank you DB.

EDIT: Yea, a 1 on 1 section is a stupid idea, no offence to it's conceiver. When you want a 1 on 1, you post the idea, or post a "Wanted" thread, and your 1 other author is picked out of applicants. Bang, you're on your way. What's the big issue??? :? Is there an unforseen problem somehwere here that I'm missing?


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Postby Brash_Toma » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:35 pm

I dont think a seperate 1 on 1 OOC subforum is stupid. It would isolate them from the tmain stream, and the regular section would be a little less cluttered
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Postby OutlawTorn » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:54 pm

-_- nvm.

I've been trying to say since last night that it's gunna be cluttered and un-organized regardless of whether or not you have a 1 on 1 Sub, a mature sub, or both.


Maybe you didn't read the whole post? Or maybe I'm speaking in tongues.

Either way you've got 4 genre's of RP cluttered together.

The 1 on 1's say "1 on 1" or (Brash & OT) Closed.


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Postby Aya » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:55 am

Ok, I think you guys are misunderstanding this. The OOC is not cluttered. This is not to organize and make it neat. This is to organize and make it easier to find what you want instead of have to either open every thread to see if it's mature or to sift through pages in the OOC to find a 1 on 1 that isn't taken yet.

As for the mature OOC being restricted... seriously? What could you possibly say in the OOC that would need to be restricted? You're not RPing in it.

I would like someone to explain their views on why it should be restricted.
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Postby Weezy_Fourstrings » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:36 am

I think the reason to restrict them would be so that people could more freely discuss the mature aspects of their RP. I don't think it is a good idea though.

Multiple OOCs are only going to be neat and organized (and easy to search) if someone cleans them. OOCs will wind up in the wrong place.

I'm against multiple OOCs. Some RPs are tough to define into genres, and many don't take a clear shape until after an interest check. I think what we have now works, especially when people tag their thread titles. If people don't tag, and you don't feel like searching, skip the thread.

A place for one on one want ads might be okay, since they do push other OOCs off the front page. Someone could always just bump the OOC though.
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Postby Cinda » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:14 am

I voted for both. I'm pretty sure we might need both eventually...
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Postby Sorvenus » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:44 pm

Yeah, agreeing with this idea. I don't know how many times I've clicked an interest thread, only to find out it's gonna be Mature or 1-on-1 (speaking of which, I'm 21, so one would think I'd be instant Mature-accessible... oh well, that's beside the point.)

These two extra sections would definitely help, I imagine, as long as people are smart enough to use them.
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Postby Aya » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:26 am

Sorvenus wrote:(speaking of which, I'm 21, so one would think I'd be instant Mature-accessible... oh well, that's beside the point.)


It's funny how people think that. I would suggest you read the mature application thread. Age does not dictate maturity.
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Postby Draconis » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:18 am

Mature and 1 on 1 is my vote.

Syrr and QI both, could definitely benefit from being placed into the mature forum to just cut down on my hunting for them, because I'm lazy and don't go to my favorites. :P
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Postby Atkeisson_Raskivey » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:24 pm

Mature and 1 on 1 is my vote.

I think it would be a lot easier, and if we had specific things to talk about maturely about the mature roleplay, we wouldn't be stepping on eggshells to make sure no one without mature access sees it, gets offended, whathaveyou.

And 1 on 1 is just convenient. Rather than having everything jumbled up into one big OOC, those who don't WANT to group roleplay can specifically call for 1 on 1 in the 1 on 1 OOC, as well as those looking to just play with one, can look on that particular OOC and find it.
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Postby Duisternis » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:34 pm

I voted for both one on one and mature.

I can see how both would be beneficial. I hate finding a roleplay that looks good, only to read later on that it will be in the mature section. If the OOCs were separated, I most likely wouldn't run unto that problem. A one on one section would also be great. I hate shifting through pages and pages of OOC to find something with "1 on 1" in the title.

And there is always the "well, why not?" argument. If it wouldn't be too difficult to do it, why wouldn't we?
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Postby Aya » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:21 am

I'll be putting up the new section shortly. Maybe in the next week. Just got good news and had been stressing for a while so little was getting done. Plus I'm still on moderator leave for the next 2 weeks.

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