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Postby Weiss » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:08 am

Indeed. Your new introduction looks much better.

As for the question involving playing and listening to music, I think it would be best if we wait for the lessons involving verbs rather than jumping ahead blindly. That way we can learn things at the right pace. [Nods.] For now, your new introduction is, to the best of my knowledge, perfect aside from the fact that you spelled "to" incorrectly.
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Postby Jaichi » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:23 am

Nightthedemon:

Hajimemashite. Watashi wa Naito desu. Ju hachi sai desu. Shumi wa ezu desu. Yoroshiku Onegaishimasu.

Pretty much perfect! ^_^ Only two things I would change. First, Juu (ten) is spelled with two u’s, not just one. Juu. Also the other thing I would change is the “ezu.” Ezu is the noun, drawing, so it is kind of strange to say. However Ongaku, the noun for music, is used in this exact same way… I will have to ask on whether ezu can be used like that or not… I really am not sure

Weiss

Hajimemashite. Boku wa Weiss desu. Nijuusan-sai desu. Shumi wa "RP" to bideogeimu desu. Yoroshiku onegaishimasu.

Geez… way to be perfect ^_^ For thso who are wondering bideogeimu is the Japanese pronunciation of Video Game… if you say bideogeimu enough, you will hear that it is the same word ^_^ Oh, and thanks for the help! I will definitely depend on you, lol ^_^

Poppiesandroses:

Hajimemashite! Watashi* wa Poppiesu desu. Watashi no Shumi wa "rp-ing" desu.

Dead on, though if you are really introducing yourself, it’s good to end with Yorshiku Onegaishimasu. ^_^

Kealen:

Hajimemashite. Ore wa Steven Files desu. Juukyuu-sai desu. Amerika-jin desu. Ore wa daigakusee. Ore no senmon wa "Nursing" desu. Ore no shumi wa ongaku to "RP" desu. Yoroshiku.

Pretty good! Just make sure you end your statements with desu. The word for Nursing is kaigo. Oh, and as I side note, while the use of Ore is okay, when using it in this situation (meeting someone you never met before) especially when mixed with using desu (there is a more casual form of Japanese, but we will get into that later ^_^) It sounds a bit… arrogant. If you watch anime, it sounds like that character who always hangs out in the back, only says a few words, and is pretty sure of his talent. Like I said, not wrong, but a little strange. In this case, I might suggest using Boku.

Alright, next lesson coming up! Thanks for the hard work everyone!
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Postby Kaelen » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:34 am

Hajimemashite. Watashi wa Steven Files desu. Juukyuu-sai desu. Amerika-jin desu. Watashi wa daigakusee desu. Watashi no senmon wa kaigo desu. Watashi no shumi wa ongaku to "RP" desu. Yoroshiku onegaishimasu.
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Attack of the killer vocab!

Postby Jaichi » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:51 am

Well, though I hate writting a post that is almost all vocab, truth is, you get about no where in langauge without learning it ^_^ To that end, here is a huge list of vocab relevant to the grammer that has been learned thus far;

Greetings/Important sayings

Ohayoo Good Morning
Ohayoo Gozaimasu Good Morning (Polite)
Konnichwa Good Afternoon
Konbanwa Good Evening
Sayoonara Good-bye
Oyasuminasai Good Night (Used when going to sleep)
Arigatoo Thanks
Arigatoo Gozaimasu Thank you (polite)
Sumimasen Excuse me; I'm sorry
Ittekimasu I'll go and come back (said when leaving)
Itterasshai Please go and come back (said when someone else is leaving)
Tadaima I'm home (said when returning)
Okaerinasai Welcome home (Said to someone else who is returning)
Itadakimasu Said before eating, thanks for the meal
Gochisoosama Said after eating, thanks for the meal
Hajimemashite How do you do (said when meeting someone for the first time)
Yoroshiku, Doozo Yoroshiku, and Yoroshiku Onegaishimasu
Nice to meet you, (casual, semi-casual, and formal) Said at the end of introduction, when meeting someone for the first time.

Alright! To explain a few of the stranger words... Some of these words do not translate well into english (at least for Americans) because they are cultural conventions that do not exist in (American) english. (It is possible other english speaking countries have equivalents, but I can't say)
These words would be Oyasuminasai, Ittekimasu, Itterasshai, Tadaima, Okaerinasai, Itadakimasu, and Goshisoosama.

Oyasuminasai is said when someone is going to bed, both by the speaker and the listner. For example. Jaichi; I'm tired, think I will go to bed. Oyasuminasai. Listener; Oyasuminasai.

Ittekimasu, Itterasshai, Tadaima, and Okaerinasai are just something you say in the approriate situations. It happens alot, so when someone leaves, comes back, its pretty normal to use these words.

Itadakimasu is something everyone says before eating, especailly when it in a group. Its kinda of the polite signal that you, or the group, is going to start eating. Goshisoosama is said when your finished eating. Ussually it is said to the host/cook, or if you are at a resturant it is said to signal to the waiter that you are ready for your bill. Its just a polite way of saying thank you for the meal.

Alright, well, I will be posting another vocab list soon, some more grammer, and some stuff to practice with shortly! Any questions, go ahead and post! Everyone, ARIGATOO! ^_^

Ah, and props! That intro was perfect!
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Postby Jaichi » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:22 am

So... time for some more Vocab! Lol, getting right to it

Important Words

ee Yes
hai Yes
iie No
Watashi I ( Formal, gender neutral)
Boku I (Semi Casual, Masculine)
Ore I (Casual, Masculine)
Atashi I (Semi Casual, Feminine)
Ima Now
Gogo P.M.
Gozen A.M.
Han Half
Nan/Nani What
Ano... Um...
Soo Desu* That's right.

*I will explain the use of soo desu and its other forms in the next lesson, so dont worry about it too much right now.

Descriptors

...go Langauge, but behind a country name to show langauge, such as Nihongo (Japanese) (Note that english is a special case, having its own word, Eego)
...jin Nationality/People, put behind words to describe what nation a person belongs to.
...sai Years old, put behind numbers to show age, nijuuichisai (21 years old)
...san Mr./Mrs./Ms. Title, put behind names in order to give respect. Note, this is something you do with most people you are not on casual terms with.
...ji hour/o'clock. Put behind numbers to give time (only in hours, Minutes are a bit more difficult, so I will save them for later).
...sensee Teacher/Professor/Master Can be used by itself, but also can be put at the end of a name as a title, similar to san.

Nouns

gakusee Student
ryugakusee international student
kookoo/kookoosee highschool/highschool student
daigaku/daigakusee college/College student
senmon Major
Denwa telephone
bangoo number
Tomodachi Friend
namae Name
Amerika U.S.A
Igirisu Britain
furansu France
Oosutoraria Australia
Kankoku Korea
Chuugoko China
Nihon Japan
(Majors)
kagaku Science
ajiakenkyuu Asian Studies
Keezai economics
kokusaikankee International relations
konpyuutaa Computer science
jinruigaku anthropology
seeji polotics
bijinesu Business
bungaku literature
rekishi history
(Occupations)
shigoto job
isha doctor
Kaishain company employee/office worker
shufu house wife
bengoshi lawery
(Family)
Okaasan Mother
Otoosan Father
Oneesan Older sister
Oniisan Older Brother
Imooto Younger sister
Otooto Younger brother

whew.... quite a list of vocab.... I got one more lesson I am going to get up today, and then some more practice![/u]
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Postby Jaichi » Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:28 pm

Hey guys!

I will be out of town for two days, so I will pick up the lessons when I get back!

Cheers!
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Postby Weiss » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:46 am

I actually wanted to confirm something, Jaichi, since I heard this recently and, having come from a pretty reliable source, I took it as stock. Is it true that "konnichiwa" (which you misspelled by the way) is only said to a particular person once each day? In other words, if you were to see someone early in the afternoon, just past morning and say, "konnichiwa"; if you met up with them again later in the afternoon but before evening, you wouldn't say "konnichiwa" again, right?

Though I don't know if they'd even teach that in a Japanese class, even if it was a societal rule, since they often don't teach cultural adaptations in language classes. Sort of like how you might not learn that it's customary to buy gifts for your new neighbors when you're moving in, as opposed to the way it happens in America that you often receive "house-warming" gifts from your new neighbors instead. Or how you should never give gifts involving the quantity of "four", since the primary verbalization of the number "four" and "death" are the same: "shi".

Speaking of that, I think it would be a good idea to give a lesson on numbers next, since they are very frequently used in Japanese lessons, such as giving one's age in an introduction or learning to tell time. [Nods.]
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Postby Kaelen » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:55 am

Keep it comin' thar's a good lernin'
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Postby Cillranchello » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:34 am

Hajimemashite! Cillranchello to moushimasu.

Jaichi-san to Weiss-san e,

Shiken desu ga, Nihongo o oshieru tame ni bunpou o oshietehajimeru hou ga ii kara Saidai na koto wa bunpou na nodesu.

Nihongo bunpou o narau ato, nihongo no amari o benkyou shiyasuku narimasu. Tekisuto kara Jaichi-san to Weiss-san wa Nihongo o oshiemasu ka? Soshite tadaima nihongo o naraimasu ka?

Hontou ni nihongo o benkyou shitagareba, watashi wa "Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese" o osusume. Google o tsukau to, mitsukemasu.

Dewa, Nihongo o benkyou suru koto ni, ganbarimasu!
Benkyou ni narimasu!

Sarama, tomo yo!
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Postby presentpresence » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:51 pm

My god, am I glad I was born speaking English! This is much more simple! Then again, I suppose we haven't gotten into all the sneaky little rules that we are sure to find. Bonne chance, mes amis!
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Postby Vindictia » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:57 am

Haha wa Okinawajin desu. Atashi mo Nihongo o hanashimasu. Demo, ima chuugokugo o benkyoushimasu. Dakara nihongo o wasureta. :p

Atashi wa supeingo to nihongo, chuugokugo, roshiago mo hanashimasu.

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